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Shaz
04-28-2004, 06:33 PM
Hi there,
I am mum to 3 Children Aged 11, 6 and 5. Since about 18 months of age my
youngest son Kieran has had a strange facination of washing machines, and
fans (extractor fans mainly) He asks constant questions like "what happens
if i switch the fan on?" and "does it turn around..? what happens if i
switch it on" he is repetitive but really interested in them, he also likes
to talk non stop about bouncy casles and lawnmowers. Yet this time last year
he was petrified of the things, and would not go into the garden before 6pm
in case anyone had a lawnmower on. He also flushes the toilet and then
crouches down to listen to the water going down the pipe. His teacher at
school has told me that he is a unique boy who takes things litratly, Like
the time she asked him to take everything out of the water pit at school..
he took out all the toys and proceeded to empty the water as well, getting
it all over the floor and other children. He wanders out of class to the
toilets to watch the fan (and hand dryer) He wakes in the night, talking to
himself about these things, and asked me in the early hours of this morning
if "daddy was going to cut the grass". Kieran is very hyper sometimes and
you look at him and wonder where his head is at, but at other times he can
be quite rational, although if im honest he does not talk about a wide range
of things and not many things can hold his interest. He has no interest in
reading or writing and will only do 2 letters of his name, although he has
been in reception class since january. He spins his hands in front of his
face and likes to touch his own and other peoples eyes (which is quite
annoying if you are not expecting it)
he will be affectionate on his terms and will give me a quick love if he
offers it, but if i grab him for a cuddle he will fight me off. He also
tends to scream rather than explain a problem if he tries to explain what is
upsetting him he gets frustrated because he gets mixed up in what he is
trying to say so just ends up screaming.
he asks questions then repeats my answers to himself before asking the
question again (all questions he asks are to do with his 'interests') Last
year we went on holiday but kieran would go no where near the amusements and
club house, he also wouldnt entertain the ball pool because it had fans in
it. What is going on with my boy? the teacher mentioned Autism But im not
convinced, so while researching autism i came across PDD and wondered if
this was the problem, The school want to meet with me soon to discuss his
educational needs, but all they have done for nearly 2 years (since he was
in nursery) is fob me off saying that he is just over active. He also hurts
himself by punching or smacking himself and then he shouts at himself. he
once put soap in his eyes then said someone made him do it.. Thinking he
meant one of the other children i asked who someone was.. but it turns out
'someone' is kieran just the 'other side' to him, a typical conversation
kieran has with himself is as follows 'go sit on the sofa and dont move' (he
then replies in a softer voice) 'no i dont want to' (he raises his voice)
'do it now or ill hit you' He then smacks himself. (he also smacks himself
whenever he is angry) We have tried to reason with him, distract him, tell
him off and sympathise but we are getting no-where, he just does not seem on
the same level as other kids his age and cannot follow instuctions. can
someone here please help, if he has a problem i really would like to know
how to help him, surley this is not normal behaviour, i certainly havent
seen this type of repetivness in my other children. Thanks for your time.

AutMom
04-28-2004, 10:15 PM
Sure sounds like Autism to me....or at least somewhere on the spectrum of PDD.
Hopefully they will offer up some good services at your next meeting. You may want an autism expert involved.

Lucas
04-29-2004, 01:19 PM
Pervasive Development Disorder is a bit of a weird definition. A person cannot just have PDD; it has to be PDD-NOS(Not Otherwise Specified). But if the person definately doesn't have Fragile X, Rett's Disorder or the other one that I can't remember- They either come under Autism or Asperger's Syndrome(which is almost the same thing).

Your son sounds like I high-functioning Autistic. Try 'using' the things he shows an interest in to teach him stuff that you think he might want to know; he might become more inclined to listen to other things you have to say.

Shaz
04-29-2004, 02:54 PM
Thankyou for your replies, I have someone coming tomorrow to talk about kieran,
We always knew there was 'something' in the way which he behaved, but we have never been able to put our fingers on it, it wasnt until he started nursery and the teachers noticed his behaviour. but to be honest they have sat on the fence over him for nearly 2 years if im honest, its us that has finally said enough now, (after his reception class teacher mentioned autism) The only way i can describe it is this, a group of children went into nursery 2 years ago, and they have learnt new things together, but gradually over the 2 years the other children have grown and matured into 5 year olds, in both attitude and behaviour, but Kieran seems to be stuck in the learning curve and doesnt seem to have moved on. I say this because one of his classmates refered to kieran as "the strange little boy in her class" when walking behind us the other day, so the other kids are noticing him too.
But thanks for your advice, i am very grateful. this is all new, and to be honest a bit scary.

AutMom
05-02-2004, 09:06 PM
Shaz, Yes it is quite scary at first. How was the meeting?

Shaz
05-04-2004, 05:54 AM
Hi
the meeting went ok, we have another one coming up on the 6th May, this one with the educational pychologist. The lady who came to see us the other day has started the ball rolling on the assesment, but because he does have some rational thought (I.E go put your shoes on, and he does) she thinks we are not looking at autism, does anyone have any views on this, thansk again for your time, you have all been very helpful.
Shaz

AutMom
05-04-2004, 11:10 AM
Hi
the meeting went ok, we have another one coming up on the 6th May, this one with the educational pychologist. The lady who came to see us the other day has started the ball rolling on the assesment, but because he does have some rational thought (I.E go put your shoes on, and he does) she thinks we are not looking at autism, does anyone have any views on this, thansk again for your time, you have all been very helpful.
Shaz
Hmmmm, my son had most of his trouble with expressive language, not receptive language.... I don't know how experienced that lady is with autism (it is a wide spectrum of varying abilities), but from your first post, I would not rule it out...

becky
05-04-2004, 04:46 PM
I agree - Will struggles a lot with complex directions, put if I ask him to go put his shoes on he can. I may have to say it 10 times before he responds, but he can follow the direction. He just gets lost if you give him a series of directions - he usually doens't get past the first step.

Don't rule out autism spectrum or PDD based on that inital meeting.

Shaz
05-07-2004, 12:15 AM
Hi Everyone. I had another meeting at the school yesterday. The school basically said that from their point of view (regardless of what his teacher says) that had i not brought kierans behaviuor and 'oddness' up, they would not have been concerned about him, he has made the transistion from nursery to reception without too much trouble, so in their eyes there is very little wrong with him. She did admit to him spinning his hands in front of his face in class, and the fact he cannot hold a conversation if it does not concern one of his 'intrests', he wanders and has no friends, and even though he is academically behind in all areas they will not put him on an IEP. Thankfully the psychologist and Primary mental health worker took my concerns a little more seriously, and whereas the school representitive laughed when i explained how tiring kieran is (waking up during the night, been on the go all day) the other two raised their eyebrows and seemed to understand. From here we are to see a speech and laungage therapist, and start assesing him properly.
Im just glad that in the end i got the school representitive to admit that their was some areas of concern because had we had a meeting with the school only we would have got fobbed off, I am very dissapointed that the school did not take me seriously. She never went as far as to say this, but you could tell that she thought the problem was ours not his.
Well thanks for listening. Take care
Shaz

AutMom
05-07-2004, 07:00 AM
I'm so glad you got some folks to take you seriously:) and you're able to get started now! Good luck and I would love to hear more updates in the future...

chris beck
05-27-2004, 02:15 AM
Sounds like autism to me too. My son had a fixation with fans. Wouldn't let you go near them. wouldn't use a toilet with an extractor fan etc etc. You just have to be patient and wait for it to pass. The main thing was to reassure our son that he was ok eventually he accepted that fans wouldn't hurt him.